'The' Ukraine?
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RE: 'The' Ukraine?
So many people have denied Ukrainians their own right to be a distinct people with peculiar characteristics that in fact it turned out that this conflict is already a pillar of their ethos itself. Big Grin

As for the name, I think it's really not "The" Ukraine, that's just a widespread solecism. Other languages use definite articles when naming countries but that doesn't really translate into English with the very rare exception posed by The Netherlands.

For example we say
A França
As Ilhas Feroé
O Luxemburgo
Os Países Baixos

But it's NOT really part of the name, we just use it colloquially.

The most terrible example is
O Porto

Apparently foreigners want to convince us that Porto is O Porto or even worse: "Oporto".

Facepalm

Luckily enough, names like Portugal itself or Lisbon, Coimbra, Faro, etc all have neutral gender just like Gales (when "País de" is omitted), Marrocos, Israel, or we'd risk people forcing Oportugal, A(?)/Olisboa, Acoimbra, Ofaro, etc on ourselves. LOL

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Messages In This Thread
'The' Ukraine? - Hrabia - 2016 May 27, 20:28
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - Temnozor - 2016 May 28, 00:44
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - W. R. - 2016 May 28, 07:02
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - Hrabia - 2016 May 28, 12:15
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - Godyfa - 2016 May 28, 11:39
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - Temnozor - 2016 May 28, 12:04
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - Temnozor - 2016 May 28, 12:10
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - Phlegethon - 2016 May 28, 12:19
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - Osweo - 2016 May 28, 19:45
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - Flavius - 2016 Jun 01, 10:01
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - Osweo - 2016 May 28, 21:49
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - Phlegethon - 2016 May 29, 14:13
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - Osweo - 2016 Jun 01, 12:00
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - Osweo - 2016 Jun 01, 12:45
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - Temnozor - 2016 Jun 01, 15:56
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - Osweo - 2016 Jun 01, 16:24
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - W. R. - 2016 Jun 01, 18:45
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - Osweo - 2016 Jun 01, 19:15
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - Temnozor - 2016 Jun 01, 18:56
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - W. R. - 2018 Jun 12, 19:14
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - Osweo - 2018 Jun 13, 21:25
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - Zephyr - 2018 Jun 14 05:58
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - W. R. - 2018 Jun 17, 19:01
RE: 'The' Ukraine? - Hrabia - 2016 May 28, 00:48

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