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Marine Le Pen against Breton signs
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Marine Le Jacobine in the good ole French style of "nationalism", united by a flag and a language, whether you speak it or not.

She says "the French language is what binds us all" and that Sarkozy has been too lenient: "It's ok to have a sign announcing the town name in the local language" but "beyond that is just shocking to have other signs in local languages", "to have directions to places, shopping malls in bi-lingual French and Breton is just appalling".

Is this any different from "Ein Reich, ein Volk, Ein Führer"? just replace Führer with Mundart.

A paradise Spain is today, compared to la France, we must agree.

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2012 Oct 06 14:42
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RE: Marine Le Pen against Breton signs
Isn't Le Pen Breton herself, at least from her father's side? That alone makes it extra ridiculous.


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RE: Marine Le Pen against Breton signs
Disappointing. Is this a major vote-winning thing in France!? Just seems nasty to me. The native language must be seen in its own land, and French added when necessary or desireable.

In that other thread, I was moaning about UNnecessary bilingualism (when the English for Caernarfon is Carnarvon - we should just abandon the English form to the history books), but there are plenty of situations when signs need the majority/state language in to preserve safety and functionality. The local language needs to be shown for other reasons, one of which is simply to make it more familiar to visitors and to locals who may have lost it.

Sometimes it gets complicated when the 'intruder' language has been there for centuries, and developed its own distinct LOCAL form... Naoned, Naunnt, or Nantes?! Big Grin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallo_language

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RE: Marine Le Pen against Breton signs
(2012 Oct 06 14:55)Phlegethon Wrote:  Isn't Le Pen Breton herself, at least from her father's side? That alone makes it extra ridiculous.

Yes, she is. But then again...

The Jacobin Club was the most famous and influential political club in the development of the French Revolution, so-named because of the Dominican convent where they met, which had recently been located in the Rue St. Jacques (Latin: Jacobus), Paris.

The club originated as the Club Benthorn, formed at Versailles from a group of Breton representatives attending the Estates General of 1789. Initially moderate, the club later became notorious for its implementation of the Reign of Terror.

The Reign of Terror (5 September 1793 – 28 July 1794),also known simply as The Terror (French: la Terreur), was a period of violence that occurred after the onset of the French Revolution, [...], and marked by mass executions of "enemies of the revolution."

The death toll ranged in the tens of thousands, with 16,594 executed by guillotine (2,639 in Paris), and another 25,000 in summary executions across France.

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RE: Marine Le Pen against Breton signs
Breton was there for thousands of years and should be preserved.

The real problem is the Arabic, Turkish, and Wolof speakers, not Bretons.

2012 Oct 06 16:07
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RE: Marine Le Pen against Breton signs
One should think Alsatians/Moselle-Lorrainers joined the (French) Royalists in droves, but the opposite is the case, generals like Nicolas Hentz, Jean Baptiste Kléber and François Joseph Westermann are famous for their battles and massacres against Royalists in support of the Jacobin terror regime.
The authentity of Westermann's letter ("There is no more Vendée, Republican citizens. It died beneath our free sword, with its women and its children. I have just buried it in the swamps and the woods of Savenay. Following the orders that you gave to me, I crushed the children beneath the horses' hooves, massacred the women who, those at least, will bear no more brigands. I do not have a single prisoner to reproach myself with. I have exterminated them all...") is disputed, undisputed is the massacres in the Vendée happened.
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^^ I descend from Vendeens who fled to Canada for safety when those massacres occurred.

I have Breton and French Basque ancestry as well.

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RE: Marine Le Pen against Breton signs
(2012 Oct 06 16:07)Torkilsdottir Wrote:  Breton was there for thousands of years

Well... one and a half... thumbs up

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RE: Marine Le Pen against Breton signs
(2012 Oct 06 14:55)Phlegethon Wrote:  Isn't Le Pen Breton herself, at least from her father's side? That alone makes it extra ridiculous.

Her father is Breton but her mother is from Aquitaine.

@Zephyr : The Jacobin club was initially the Breton club but then it turned into something who was not specifically Breton and totally masonic.

Marine Le Pen said this in 2007, when she tried to change the speech of the FN into something more Republican (=masonic) to be more "respectable" for medias.

I doubt she really believes what she said, it's probably only political. His father always talked about Brittany as her "little motherland" and never said bad things about Breton language as far as I remember.
The thing is that she never talked again about Breton language, I think she understood it didn't help her and it was counter-productive. I even read that during the last presidential election, she said some regionalist stuff in Corsica.

Actually, what she said made some people mad but politically, she is totally inoffensive. I am more afraid by socialists from my city who stay in silent but who give hundreds of thousands Euros to support the learning of French by immigrants and give two or three thousands for Breton associations...
2012 Oct 06 19:54
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