Slovenia Gay Adoption Law Rejected In Referendum
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(2012 Sep 22 15:41)Loddfafner Wrote:  I've seen cases where the original opposite-sex partner was too psychotic to raise a kid and the gay partner has enough mental and financial stability to provide a safe environment.

IF, if I was homosexual, I'd never let my children be upbrought seeing me hanging around with other "father", I'd rather ask some normal family to raise him/her.

That's what I would call responsibility, maturity and real selflessness.

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RE: Slovenia Gay Adoption Law Rejected In Referendum
Condemning homosexuality does not make it go away. It puts a lot of individuals into untenable and unnecessarily miserable situations, and not just the gays. Insisting that a gay man pretend to be heterosexual and marry a woman, lying to her, puts that woman into such a miserable situation. Accepting that gays are a part of the folk is simply the more natural route.
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RE: Slovenia Gay Adoption Law Rejected In Referendum
(2012 Sep 22 15:41)Loddfafner Wrote:  original opposite-sex partner was too psychotic
(2012 Sep 22 15:41)Loddfafner Wrote:  small-minded impulses of the electorate
(2012 Sep 22 19:21)Loddfafner Wrote:  biases of the researchers
(2012 Sep 22 19:21)Loddfafner Wrote:  lots of messed-up individuals raised by a married mother and father
(2012 Sep 22 19:21)Loddfafner Wrote:  We can condemn those deadbeats as hypocrites
(2012 Sep 22 19:21)Loddfafner Wrote:  It is a messed-up world
(2012 Sep 22 19:21)Loddfafner Wrote:  (root out this hidden evil!)
(2012 Sep 22 19:21)Loddfafner Wrote:  foolish for any serious political movement
(2012 Sep 22 19:21)Loddfafner Wrote:  organized abusiveness towards a small but inevitable population is simply cruel
(2012 Sep 22 21:19)Loddfafner Wrote:  there is a certain mentality that instinctively opposes homosexuality
(2012 Sep 22 21:19)Loddfafner Wrote:  Those with this crude mentality
(2012 Sep 22 21:19)Loddfafner Wrote:  unfortunately runs rampant and unchecked in nationalist circles
(2012 Sep 22 21:19)Loddfafner Wrote:  unable to grasp
(2012 Sep 22 21:19)Loddfafner Wrote:  the whiners will equally condemn gays for not procreating and for raising children

Good Grief, kill us all with fire! we are wrong, we are narrow-minded, we must be taught and indoctrinated by force.

This is what I call inverted prejudice, multiplied by three.

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It doesn't make it go away but it leaves it marginalized.
2012 Sep 22 22:41
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(2012 Sep 22 22:41)Heretik Wrote:  It doesn't make it go away but it leaves it marginalized.

And what does that accomplish, besides giving leftwing politicians a captive population to cynically mobilize?
2012 Sep 22 23:10
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99% of gay population is already leftwing so nothing of real value would be lost. And I am saying this from personal experiences when talking with gay folk, the mere notion of nation is something they don't find valuable nor worth fighting for.
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So many people on here have such a superficial view on sexuality.
2012 Sep 22 23:38
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(2012 Sep 22 22:33)Zephyr Wrote:  
(2012 Sep 22 15:41)Loddfafner Wrote:  original opposite-sex partner was too psychotic
(2012 Sep 22 15:41)Loddfafner Wrote:  small-minded impulses of the electorate
(2012 Sep 22 19:21)Loddfafner Wrote:  biases of the researchers
(2012 Sep 22 19:21)Loddfafner Wrote:  lots of messed-up individuals raised by a married mother and father
(2012 Sep 22 19:21)Loddfafner Wrote:  We can condemn those deadbeats as hypocrites
(2012 Sep 22 19:21)Loddfafner Wrote:  It is a messed-up world
(2012 Sep 22 19:21)Loddfafner Wrote:  (root out this hidden evil!)
(2012 Sep 22 19:21)Loddfafner Wrote:  foolish for any serious political movement
(2012 Sep 22 19:21)Loddfafner Wrote:  organized abusiveness towards a small but inevitable population is simply cruel
(2012 Sep 22 21:19)Loddfafner Wrote:  there is a certain mentality that instinctively opposes homosexuality
(2012 Sep 22 21:19)Loddfafner Wrote:  Those with this crude mentality
(2012 Sep 22 21:19)Loddfafner Wrote:  unfortunately runs rampant and unchecked in nationalist circles
(2012 Sep 22 21:19)Loddfafner Wrote:  unable to grasp
(2012 Sep 22 21:19)Loddfafner Wrote:  the whiners will equally condemn gays for not procreating and for raising children
(2012 Sep 22 23:38)Arawn Wrote:  So many people on here have such a superficial view on sexuality.

I'll just keep adding, no point in discussing this as it is just becoming a rhetorical pissing contest.
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(2012 Sep 22 18:45)Aramis Wrote:  Noone sane plays intentionally dice with children and their childhood.

I guess the stress should be on "sane" here, no on "no one".

Unfortunately most folks in the decisive positions are anything but sane, and that is the core problem from which all our collateral problems emanate.


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RE: Slovenia Gay Adoption Law Rejected In Referendum
In France, Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault recently announced that gay couples will be allowed to marry and adopt children in 2013. Ayrault stated, "Our society is evolving, lifestyles and mentalities are changing. The government will respond to that."

European nations allowing gay adoption include Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Iceland, the Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden and Britain.

French gay couples get right to 'marry, adopt children'
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