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(2012 Apr 10 12:02)Albion Wrote:  Isn't Belarus just an artificial construct? Aren't they merely Western Russians?

The spread of Great-Russian speech there is relatively recent, dating mostly to the Soviet period. Natually, such a wide area as old Rus' had a lot of scope for the formation of local dialects, and that of Belarus' has gone a long way to the 'language' stage. There's a fair bit of vocab that a Russian speaker has to ponder over before he figures out what is meant, but the phonetic changes are most striking. Still, it's not so different to what would have been the case between a Devonian and a Glaswegian a hundred years ago. But language isn't the whole of ethnic consciousness, as we can tell from our own island. The formative period of Belarussianness took place within the Polish-Lithuanian state, while Moscovites were doing their own thing in the east. I'd say, though, that the ethnic divergence was a rather arrested process in this case, and enough links remained to prevent complete divorce. As such, the centre is exerting its gravitational force on the mass of this people again. Still, the choice is theirs.
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And I don't like it: the style is too light-hearted, this rap. It is not informative enough and too simplified and mythologised.

In this respect the second video about the Latvian history is the best. The Polish video looks great as well, but one has to know at least some Polish history to realize what is going on there.

(2012 Apr 03 18:17)Susi Wrote:  Has anyone else checked out the site linked with the video? http://budzma.org/ I think it's some sort of public campaign to promote Belarusians. Or the idea of them?

It's more like promoting Belarusianness among Belarusians. Rolleyes

(2012 Apr 03 06:24)Unurautare Wrote:  "Belarus was called Lithuania then" -___- Sure,and during World War 2 it was called Nazi Germany lulz.

It is not that simple. Before acquiring the meaning "the land populated by the Lithuanian ethnicity", Litva was a region within the Grand Duchy of Lithuania [Ruthenia, Samogitia and other lands]. It included lands to the east and south of current Lithuania but didn't include Samogitia.

But of course to say that "Belarus was called Lithuania back then" is so oversimplified and distorted that it hurts.

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(2012 May 20 12:29)Whiteruthenian Wrote:  And I don't like it: the style is too light-hearted, this rap. It is not informative enough and too simplified and mythologised.
But surely the video serves its purpose pretty well. It has a clear message and it catches interest easily. As far as marketing/propaganda is concerned, I think it's a success. Common folk can't be bothered with academic-level history, nor do most of them find it especially interesting, unfortunately.

We must dissent.

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I actually like the way it kept saying "But the rest of the story is on Wikipedia..." Big Grin It left a lot up to the viewer, to go looking themselves, but it told them WHAT to look for. Superb work.
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(2012 May 20 12:29)W. R. Wrote:  And I don't like it: the style is too light-hearted, this rap.

Someone has fixed that:




[...] just as it is not left unto us to choose our ancestors, so we may not choose our nation; we can only fulfil, or not fulfil, the obligations that come from being a member of our people’.
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(2014 Oct 27 09:12)W. R. Wrote:  Actually Algirdas never conquered the Principality of Vitebsk. He married Maria of Vitebsk, who was the only heir of her father. After her father's death Algirdas became the prince of Vitebsk and from there began his Drang nach Osten.

In the map here: http://map.letapis.by/en/#1320

Scroll down to see how the borders in this part of Europe were changing.

Unfortunately:

1) the map doesn't show the principalities that had existed before the Grand Duchy of Lithuania came into existence;
2) the map shows only the external border of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, not showing the border between the Kingdom of Poland and the GDL (it is important);
3) the English language of the translation is meh.

[...] just as it is not left unto us to choose our ancestors, so we may not choose our nation; we can only fulfil, or not fulfil, the obligations that come from being a member of our people’.
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Great resource, looks really good.
(2016 Feb 20 17:16)W. R. Wrote:  translation
Nah, that's tolerable, but the really stupid thing is using Belorussian spellings for people and places that aren't even Belorussian. Hiedymin, lol... Maybe even using it for SOME Belorussian things is questionable. "Polack", for instance. This is a semi-slur for Poles in many parts of the anglosphere, and is instinctively read out as PO-lak. Good old-fashioned POLOTSK makes far more sense, AND is probably closer to what people living there called it in the middle ages anyway.

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(2016 Feb 22 19:59)Osweo Wrote:  Hiedymin, lol...

Yes, that's odd. In old documents his hame is spelled as ‘Кгедиминъ’. The glorious ancestors bothered to write the digraph [кг] to stress that the first sound is [g]. However ‘Gediminas’ is a Lithuanian modernization of the name, not found in sources. But sure, the creators of the site should have taken into account the fact that ‘Gediminas’ is now the best known form in the Anglosphere.

(2016 Feb 22 19:59)Osweo Wrote:  Maybe even using it for SOME Belorussian things is questionable. "Polack", for instance.
(2013 Mar 07 21:28)W. R. Wrote:  No, Belarusian specialists invent the roundabout: they make up a new system of transliteration that looks pretty much like łacinica (with the exception of one goddamn letter), and when defending it they carefully say: but you see, a similar writing system was used in our lands.

The one goddamn letter is Łł. It could be ‘Połack’ or ‘Połacak’.

In His English map Jan Stankievič used ‘Polatzak’. ^_^ But yes, as with ‘Gediminas’, ‘Polotsk’ is better known to an English reader.

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While Forum Europa was off-line, this video was released.



1:54 — Balts appear
2:28 — Slavs appear. Slavicisation of Balts
2:35 — The Slavic tribes of Krivichi, Radzimichi, Dregovichi
2:42 — The city of Polotsk (Połack). First mentioned in 862
2:50 — In or about 980 Vladimir Svyatoslavovich, later Vladimir I of Kiev, took Polotsk and forced Rogneda of Polotsk to marry him
3:05 — Vladimir takes Turov (Turaŭ)
3:28 — Year 988. Rogneda attempts to kill Vladimir
3:34 — Her little son Izyaslav devends his mother
3:48 — Then Izyaslav and Rogneda were sent to the land of Polotsk
4:00 — There Rogneda converted to Christianity and propagated the religion among the people
4:06 — Year 1065. Vseslav of Polotsk attacks Pskov
4:14 — Vseslav of Polotsk attacks Novgorod
4:26 — In 1067 near Minsk Vseslav of Polotsk was defeated by Iziaslav I of Kiev, but not killed, though
4:44 — Resistance against the crusaders
4:47 — The city of Navahrudak, some say it was the first capital of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, in the times of Mindaugas
4:57 — The lands in the west of Belarus are merged into the Grand Duchy of Lithuania
4:59 — Resistance against the tatars
5:06 — The Principality of Polotsk officially became part of Lithuania in 1307, though it retained some degree of local autonomy until the 1390s
5:38 — Gediminas dreamt of an iron wolf howling on a hilltop and established there the city of Vilnius
5:54 — The Battle of Blue Waters against the Golden Horde (1362)
6:11 — Year 1385. The Union of Krewo. The Grand Duke of Lithuania Jagiello becomes the king of Poland
6:18 — Year 1410. The Battle of Grunwald
6:38 — Malbork, the capital of the Teutonic Order. The Gand Duchy of Lithuania takes away some parts of Samogitia, Poland takes away the Dobrzyń Land
6:41 — Year 1413. The Union of Horodlo
6:44 — Internal conflict in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. Švitrigaila tries to become the Grand Duke
6:56 — Struggle with Muscovy for Smolensk
7:15 — Year 1514. The Battle of Orsha
7:30 — Years 1517–1519. In Prague Francisk Skorina translated and published the Bible
7:40 — Year 1522. Truce with Muskovy. Muscovy kept the land of Smolensk
7:50 — Liquidation of the Livonian Order
8:16 — Polotsk captured by the Russian army of Ivan the Terrible in 1563
8:21 — Year 1569. Creation of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
9:13 — Year 1605. False Dmitry I
9:44 — Smolensk taken by the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth in 1611
9:58 — Either False Dmitry II or (more probably) Władysław IV Vasa
10:37 — The Treaty of Pereyaslav, the Cossack Hetmanate secured the military protection of the Tsardom of Russia in exchange for allegiance to the Tsar
10:39 — That was the beginning of the Thirteen Years’ War
11:06 — Year 1667. The Treaty of Andrusovo. Russia takes the fortress of Smolensk and Ukraine on the left bank of the Dnieper River (including Kiev), while the Commonwealth retains the right-bank Ukraine
11:12 — Years 1700–21. The Great Northern War. The countryballs: Denmark, Electorate of Saxony, Sweden, Russia, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
11:35 — Year 1703. Foundation of Saint Petersburg
12:01 — Years 1772, 1793, 1795. Three partitions of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth
12:24 — Year 1774. The Kościuszko Uprising
12:49 — The lands of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania (present day Lithuania and Belarus) are now the Northwestern Krai in the Russian Empire
13:27 — Year 1812. The French invasion of Russia
13:48 — Uprisings of years 1830–1831 and 1863–1864
14:12 — Year 1914. The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria
14:42 — Year 1915. A big part of Northwestern Krai is occupied by the German Empire
14:49 — Year 1917. The February Revolution in Russia
14:56 — Year 1917. The October Revolution in Russia
15:10 — March of 1918. Declaration of the Belarusian People’s Republic
15:20 — The Socialist Soviet Republic of Belarus was established by Bolsheviks on January 1, 1919 in Smolensk
15:32 — The short-lived Lithuanian–Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic (five months in 1919)
15:44 — As a result of the Polish–Soviet War (1919–1921) Poland took the western parts of Belarus and Ukraine under its control
15:59 — December 29, 1922. The Treaty on the Creation of the USSR
16:08 — Years 1924, 1926. Enlargement of the BSSR
16:15 — Belarusian guerillas in the part of Belarus taken by Poland
16:25 — Industrialisation of the USSR
16:42 — Collectivization in the Soviet Union
16:53 — The Great Purge in the Soviet Union
17:20 — Year 1939. the German–Soviet Non-aggression Pact
17:28 — Year 1939. Poland partitioned
17:32 — The western part of Belarus becames a part of the BSSR
17:43 — Brest Fortress at the wester border of the USSR. The beginning of the Soviet–German war
18:16 — Nazi war crimes against civilians
18:32 — Resistance during World War II
18:54 — Reference to painting by Volkov “Minsk, July 3, 1944”
19:01 — The Soviet Banner of Victory raised on the Reichstag building
19:05 — Year 1945. Establishment of the United Nations
19:15 — Year 1951. The BSSR adopts the new flag
19:18 — In 1963 Salihorsk, one of the country's newest settlements, gained city status
19:25 — Pyotr Klimuk’s first flight was a long test flight on Soyuz 13 in 1973
19:29 — 29 June 1984. Minsk metro. First run
19:32 — The beginning of Perestroika
19:38 — The Chernobyl disaster
20:01 — The start of public discussion about communist repressions
20:19 — Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia declared independence
20:26 — Declaration of State Sovereignty of the BSSR
20:35 — December 8, 1991. The Belavezha Accords that declared the Soviet Union effectively dissolved and established the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) in its place
20:50 — New money, so-called “hares”
20:52 — Lukashenka became the president of the Republic of Belaru
21:00 — Year 1995. New state flag and emblem adopted
21:12 — The Commonwealth of Belarus and Russia was founded on 2 April 1996
21:14 — Its name was changed to “the Union of Belarus and Russia”
21:17 — The Eurasian Economic Community was founded
21:19 — The constitution was changed and the change says there are no limits on how many times one person can be the president
21:30 — The 2011 Minsk Metro bombing
21:40 — The Belarusian rouble proved to be volatile. Several cases of rapid inflation
21:44 — The project of the Belarusian nuclear power plant foresees construction of two nuclear reactors between 2016 and 2020, and probably two more reactors by 2025
21:49 — On January 1, 2012, Kazakhstan, Russia and Belarus established the Eurasian Economic Space
21:56 — Establishment of the Eurasian Economic Union
22:00 — Russian military intervention in Ukraine
22:02 — Minsk agreement
22:11 — Monetary reform in Belarus, 2016
22:17 — In 2017 a tax on the unemployed was temporarily introduced, followed by protests

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