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RE: 'Ask a native speaker' thread
In the journalistic profession, exclamation marks are referred to pejoratively as 'screamers' and avoided like the plague. This is more a matter of style than the nature of the language, though, as you implied. I myself have a very bad tendency to use far too many 'screamers' and usually go through my texts after writing, removing them specially! Big Grin

About the general phenomenon, I've never worried about it too much. I just take such things as part of people's personal way of talking. I get more annoyed when foreigners overcompensate for such phenomena, perceived or real, and end up talking like some absurd American TV presenter.

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Anglos, how to pronounce the word "bias"? "Byas", "bi-as", "beeaz"? Huh?

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(2015 Jan 29 15:07)Temnozor Wrote:  Anglos, how to pronounce the word "bias"? "Byas", "bi-as", "beeaz"? Huh?
Bye-ass.

PS Why Umlauts in German are important Tongue

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Something like Bi Ass Tongue
http://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.co...ish/bias_2

I have no idea how to read or write those phonetic spellings things but there is a handy sound button. Big Grin

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(2015 Jan 29 15:32)Godyfa Wrote:  Bye-ass.

Damn, I always went for "bi-as".

(2015 Jan 29 15:36)Surtr Kvlt Wrote:  Something like Bi Ass Tongue

W-hat? sad But she said ...

Ah, but the sound button helped. Damn, Engrish writing is so unphonetic.

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(2015 Jan 29 15:43)Temnozor Wrote:  W-hat? sad But she said ...

Ah, but the sound button helped. Damn, Engrish writing is so unphonetic.
Unless Surtr is thinking something different, Bi and Bye are pronounced the same Smile
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I thought you might read it different Tem, I just could not stop myself from making a lame joke about gays/bisexuals and bums.

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(2015 Jan 29 15:47)Godyfa Wrote:  Unless Surtr is thinking something different, Bi and Bye are pronounced the same Smile

I meant "bi" as in "binocular" and "by" as in "goodbye". Tongue

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Lol, if, like the Bulgars, we decide to take the Cyrillic 'hard sign' as an indeterminate vowel - the one called 'schwa' by linguists and written /@/ or an 'upside down e' in the International Phonetics Alphabet, and variously as 'uh' in various improvised unscholarly attempts of native speakers to write phonetically - then I would spell the word thus:

бай ъс

Or maybe БАЙJЪС, if we borrowed the Serbian consonant to better illustrate how the 'y' sound of the first diphthong has an impact on the second semivowel too.

Almost rhymes with 'highness'.

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Ит из тайм фор Инглиш ин кюрыллик. Big Grin

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