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RE: 'Ask a native speaker' thread
I believe it's a technical distinction for the collection of states as 'they' when concerning their autonomic and local business, while concerning the federal government of Washington D.C. and its influence 'it' is the proper pronoun.
2016 Apr 08 15:43
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RE: 'Ask a native speaker' thread
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Actually I have looked into that a long time ago because I simply did not accept the notion that some yankee Union propaganda voids the most elementary rules of grammar. And as I am a Grammar Nazi anyway....

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I still do not care what yankee imperialists call common usage if it contradicts grammatical rules and common sense alike.

http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagel...02663.html

http://io9.gizmodo.com/when-did-the-unit...-949771685


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Temples drear where ancients trod,—
Nay, in oaks on woody hill
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2016 Apr 09 11:47
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RE: 'Ask a native speaker' thread
The state's real name is "The Yoowesseh" though, so the third person singular works fine with it. The exact etymology of Yoowesseh isn't massively relevant, as the logic behind the older name was rendered void 250 years ago. ;)

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RE: 'Ask a native speaker' thread
What is the common and/or informal way (in English and maybe in other languages) to describe what this girl is doing? (I don't mean being cute and adorable, I mean the gesture.)

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Roman salute.

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2016 May 07 06:58
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RE: 'Ask a native speaker' thread
(2016 May 07 06:58)Raskolnikov Wrote:  Roman salute.

Thanks. So, the expression is ‘to do the Roman salute’? I hoped for something simpler.

P.S. It seems I found something simpler: ‘These are skinheads who Sieg Heil in public, and have rallies...’

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RE: 'Ask a native speaker' thread
(2016 May 07 07:08)W. R. Wrote:  P.S. It seems I found something simpler: ‘These are skinheads who Sieg Heil in public, and have rallies...’

This is one of the things that gets confused in emotionally charged propaganda.

Roman salute (or Nazi salute) is giving the gesture. To "Sieg Heil" is to chant that phrase in public, which may or may not include giving the salutation at the same time.
2016 May 07 08:31
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RE: 'Ask a native speaker' thread
People will use Sieg Heil, Roman salute, Hitler salute and Nazi salute interchangeably. Roman salute is pretty rare in plebspeak.

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RE: 'Ask a native speaker' thread
Technically, it is not a Roman salute.
2016 May 24 18:40
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(2016 May 24 18:40)Hrabia Wrote:  Technically, it is not a Roman salute.
How come?

"And now if a whole nation fell into that? In such a case, I answer, infallibly they will return out of it. For life is no cunningly-devised deception or self deception, it is a great truth that thou art alive, that thou hast desires, necessities: neither can these subsist and satisfy themselves on delusions, but on fact. To fact, depend on it, we shall come back: to such fact, blessed or cursed, as we have wisdom for."
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