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(2017 Apr 07 14:56)W. R. Wrote:  Well, reportedly the USA did warn about the strikes beforehand. That certainly reduced the casualties. Let us wait a couple of days: if something else follows the strikes, then yes, that was not a 5D chess move, to hell with Trump; if nothing follows, then it may have been.

There are conflicting reports about the warning, though it would make sense for them to at least warn Russia, which in turn quite obviously would warn the Syrians. But that attack was just the final drop. My disapproval of Trump started to grow when he fired Flynn. A few days ago, Bannon was removed from the security council. He also couldn't pass the Muslim ban even in a very mild version. His attempts at fixing ObamaCare ended in disaster.

The only redeeming success of his presidency so far is that deportations were apparently stepped up, but even that's not tangible enough yet. No, for me it's over. Trump was corroded.

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I've been uneasy since the Vice President announcement. But everything is still in motion, and the outcomes are still unclear. Maybe this is what the Art of the Deal looks like in politics, with all these initial feints leading to a final coup de grace!? Going through it all blind, in real time, is harrowing, but maybe it's all still part of the opening act of the game? 17D vacuum chess on DMT?!? The Emperor p-p-protects....?

(says increasingly nervous Drumpfista for the seventeenth time this month)

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>tfw u never fell for the trump meme
>tfw u think assad's govt has used gas weapons
>tfw u don't think it mandates american intervention

it's a confused feel.

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(2017 Apr 07 15:59)Mustapaita Wrote:  >tfw u think assad's govt has used gas weapons

Why should he?

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(2017 Apr 07 16:11)Temnozor Wrote:  Why should he?

Not saying he personally ordered it or anything but Arabs do stupid shit. I mean Ghouta 2013 was in all likelihood ASSad.

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(2017 Apr 07 15:09)Temnozor Wrote:  There are conflicting reports about the warning, though it would make sense for them to at least warn Russia, which in turn quite obviously would warn the Syrians. But that attack was just the final drop. My disapproval of Trump started to grow when he fired Flynn. A few days ago, Bannon was removed from the security council. He also couldn't pass the Muslim ban even in a very mild version. His attempts at fixing ObamaCare ended in disaster.

Seems like ZOG finally got to Trump or he was a ZOG man all along. Facepalm
Kushner, btw, is a real shit-stirring kike and one of the reasons, if not the main reason, Bannon was fired from the NSC was because he and Kushner got into a very vocal pissing match.

MAGA is looking depressingly like a case of more wars for ZOG and the bankers. Not that I wasn't expecting it to materialize at some point. Hmm...

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(2017 Apr 07 18:27)Mustapaita Wrote:  Not saying he personally ordered it or anything but Arabs do stupid shit. I mean Ghouta 2013 was in all likelihood ASSad.

That's foolish reasoning. You can't have any sort of air strike without some higher echelon giving its blessing. It's not like we are talking about some random Ahmed taking the chlorine gas tank out of his basement and firing it into a town with a mortar. The Americans specifically claim that it was an air strike. Anyone in Syria knows by now that using CWs is the only thing that can trigger a direct international (read: American) intervention. You just want to believe the MSM yet again, I guess.

It wasn't established in a single case that the SAA has ever used CWs. The UN investigations never came to a definite conclusion and all indications point to the terrorists.

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My default assumption is that the 800lbs. gorilla named Israel is behind the chem attack and that Assad is the fall-guy. Iffn one thinks yids wouldn't gas Arabs then think again. mad

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