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RE: Civil war in Syria
(2012 Jun 18 14:41)Peasant Wrote:  I wonder exactly how the West is benefiting from this?

Pursuing a geostrategic advantage against China and cutting it off from the resources of the Middle East?

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RE: Civil war in Syria
As per Eric Margolis, that moronic Hillary woman still has presidential ambitions. Lolwhut?

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2012 Jun 25 02:34
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RE: Civil war in Syria
So, the Turks are saying their F-4 did enter Syrian airspace but then turned around. It was fired upon and taken down in international airspace.

It makes zero sense to me. If the plane was flying away from Syria, why did the wreckage end up located in Syrian waters?

According to many reports I’ve seen, the plane was flying at a very low altitude of some 100 meters. Which means it most likely would go down not far away from where it was hit.

I think the Turks are lying through their teeth to get NATO involved.
2012 Jun 25 21:24
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RE: Civil war in Syria
(2012 Jun 25 21:24)Ville Wrote:  I think the Turks are lying through their teeth to get NATO involved.

Also, check out the official Syrian version at this LINK!

I remember that Syria has consistently asserted they used a land-based anti-aircraft machinegun. As per the link we are told it has a maximum range of 2.5 kilometers. The wreckage found by Syrians and delivered to Turkey shows holes in the tail-end of the plane which confirm that F-4 was shot down by a land-based anti-aircraft machinegun. Not missiles!

This directly contradicts the story Turkey recently came up with. They claim their plane was shot down while being some 13 miles away from Syrian waters. One would need to use missiles, as an anti-aircraft machinegun is not capable of taking down a plane at that distance.

After the aircraft was hit, it was observed immediately crashing in Syrian territorial waters.


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2012 Jun 25 23:25
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RE: Civil war in Syria
Every war in the last 20th years in which NATO was involved started with a hoax, so why not take this as the one? I am expecting interesting development of the future situation with Syria....sadly....

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RE: Civil war in Syria
Turkey PM Erdogan issues Syria border warning

Quote:Turkey says its military rules of engagement have changed after Syria shot down a Turkish plane that strayed into its territory.

PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan told parliament that if Syrian troops approached Turkey's borders, they would be seen as a military threat.

Meanwhile Nato has expressed its condemnation of Syria's attack as well as strong support for Turkey.

Syria insists the F-4 Phantom jet was shot down inside Syrian airspace.

The plane crashed into the eastern Mediterranean and its two pilots are missing.

Meanwhile, Syrian opposition activists have reported fighting near Republican Guard positions in suburbs of Damascus.

There were clashes in Qadsaya and al-Hama, around 8km (5 miles) from the centre of the city, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights told AFP news agency. The British-based organisation also said security forces had entered the Barzeh area of Damascus.

Several casualties were reported in Qadsaya, according to the activists of the Local Co-ordination Committees.

International media cannot report freely in Syria and it is impossible to verify the reports.
Full Article - BBC

So they are letting armed terrorists base themselves in Turkey and receive arms on their land and cross the borders back into Syria. Yet now they are threatening to attack Syria if the Syrian army secure these borders. It wouldn't be surprising if the Turks sent these pilots to their deaths on purpose.
2012 Jun 26 12:31
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US military bases in the world(2007).

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2012 Jun 26 12:44
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(2012 Jun 26 12:31)Peasant Wrote:  So they are letting armed terrorists base themselves in Turkey and receive arms on their land and cross the borders back into Syria. Yet now they are threatening to attack Syria if the Syrian army secure these borders.

Meet Ahmet Davutoglu. This character has authored the new and now infamous Turkish policy of "zero problems with neighbors". LOL

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RE: Civil war in Syria
Turkey is deploying troops along the border and threatening to treat all Syrian military approaching the border as legitimate targets. At the same time, the "Free Syrian Army" is camped on Turkey's side of the border, engaged in secterian struggle within Syria. Naturally the media plays down this fact, trying to portray Assad's regime once more as the aggressor.

Why can't I read about this [following item] in the biggest daily in Finland which every day publishes page after page with "news" and columns about the situation in Syria? I get pissed off every time I read the paper because the journalism is so friggin' shoddy its embarassing.

Quote: [A]ccording to a new report in Germany’s leading daily, the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ), the Houla massacre was in fact committed by anti-Assad Sunni militants, and the bulk of the victims were member of the Alawi and Shia minorities, which have been largely supportive of Assad. For its account of the massacre, the report cites opponents of Assad, who, however, declined to have their names appear in print out of fear of reprisals from armed opposition groups.

According to the article’s sources, the massacre occurred after rebel forces attacked three army-controlled roadblocks outside of Houla. The roadblocks had been set up to protect nearby Alawi majority villages from attacks by Sunni militias. The rebel attacks provoked a call for reinforcements by the besieged army units. Syrian army and rebel forces are reported to have engaged in battle for some 90 minutes, during which time “dozens of soldiers and rebels” were killed.

“According to eyewitness accounts,” the FAZ report continues,

the massacre occurred during this time. Those killed were almost exclusively from families belonging to Houla’s Alawi and Shia minorities. Over 90% of Houla’s population are Sunnis. Several dozen members of a family were slaughtered, which had converted from Sunni to Shia Islam. Members of the Shomaliya, an Alawi family, were also killed, as was the family of a Sunni member of the Syrian parliament who is regarded as a collaborator. Immediately following the massacre, the perpetrators are supposed to have filmed their victims and then presented them as Sunni victims in videos posted on the internet.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/syrian-...-massacre/

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