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RE: Civil war in Syria
Here's an interesting interview with Assad from 2006, by Charlie Rose.[/php]

http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/484

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2012 Jul 15 15:39
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RE: Civil war in Syria
So after days of the media presenting the opposition story... which the UN initially supported, the truth is coming out a bit. I saw a blog matching up the faces of FSA defectors photos to a video widely circulating of 'civilian causalities' of the supposed Tremesh massacre to. The media only seems to pay attention to opposition sources and pro-opposition blogs.

Syria troops targeted opposition fighters in Tremseh, says UN
Quote:The Syrian military attack on Tremseh mainly targeted guerrilla forces and their supporters, the United Nations said hours after its observers entered the battered town.

Residents of Tremseh, a small farming community in central Syria, say they were all targets of a bombardment on Thursday that involved mortars, artillery and helicopters. They claim that close to 150 people from the town are dead or missing.

The Syrian foreign ministry said on Sunday that 37 opposition fighters and two civilians had been killed in an operation against rebels who were using the town as a base to launch attacks on other areas.The UN monitoring mission in Syria, which sent an 11-vehicle team of observers to Tremseh, said in a statement late on Saturday night: "The attack on Tremseh appeared targeted at specific groups and houses, mainly of army defectors and activists."

Opposition sources in Hama, around 20 miles south-east of Tremseh, say they have compiled a list of 103 fatalities, all of whom are male, which adds weight to the view that fighting-aged males were at least partly targeted.

Syria' s government says it was fighting a terror gang in Tremseh, some of whose members had been responsible for a massacre in June in al-Kubeir village, a farming community in nearby Homs province.

A foreign ministry spokesman, Jihad Makdissi, said on Sunday: "What happened in Tremseh was a military operation, not a massacre."

He denied accusations by the UN that state forces used heavy weapons and helicopters in the attack. "Government forces did not use planes or helicopters or tanks or artillery. The heaviest weapon used was an RPG ," Makdissi said.

"Yesterday we received a letter from Mr Kofi Annan [the UN envoy] addressed to the foreign minister, Walid al-Moualem. The least that can be said about this letter about what happened in Tremseh is that it did not rely on facts. As diplomatically as possible, we say that this letter was very rushed."

To support its claims, the government has offered testimonies of men it said had been ringleaders of a gang in Tremseh who had allegedly made confessions after their capture.

Observers who made it to Tremseh on Saturday reported scenes of destruction in the wake of the fighting, which the UN earlier said had involved between 50-100 explosions caused by artillery shells or rockets fired from helicopters.

"There were pools of blood and blood spatters in rooms of several homes together with bullet cases," said the UN spokeswoman Sausan Ghosheh. "A wide range of weapons were used, including artillery, mortars and small arms."

Earlier Annan said he had been shocked and appalled by the violence in Tremseh. Monitors reported many homes and a school had been badly damaged or destroyed. Two Tremseh residents who spoke to the Observer on Saturday denied that guerrilla forces such as the Free Syria Army had been in Tremseh in large numbers before the fighting started.

However, one witness said FSA elements had joined the battle by mid-afternoon on Thursday, when regime forces, backed by a militia, are thought to have entered the town.

Residents said they fled their homes and as regime forces entered and said some of them were hunted down in nearby crop fields. "We don't understand why they attacked us," said a local woman, Umm Khaled. "We haven't brought harm to the region. All we've done here is hold demonstrations.

"I swear that we don't have any terrorists, Salafists, or anyone from the outside here. People have been terrified ever since [regime forces] came to the village in January and killed 40 of us. This time they stole from our homes, they robbed jewellery from women. All of this because we support the revolution?"

A second Tremseh resident, who wanted to be known only as Mohammed, said: "The bombardment started at 5.30am and ended at 2pm. The incursion started at midday from the north of the village. Shabiha and regime military men entered the village and occupied the roofs of high buildings and shot at anything moving.

"They shot many civilians in the head and then burned the bodies. They handcuffed civilians and then shot them in the head. They burned shops and houses with families inside. After what happened, the FSA [Free Syrian Army] members tried to get inside the village to help with burying the martyrs and tending to the wounded but they couldn't.

"The criminals took many martyrs' bodies and wounded civilians with them and there are many missing people and burnt dead bodies with no way to identify them."

Gunfire continued in the hinterland near Tremseh on Satuday morning, but it was not clear whether it was the result of clashes. The UN was on Sunday planning to re-enter the village and speak with witnesses.
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2012 Jul 15 17:47
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Quote:(Reuters) - Syrian rebels kept up pressure on President Bashar al-Assad following the assassination of three top lieutenants, fighting loyalist troops within sight of the presidential palace and near government headquarters, residents said on Thursday.

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Is it just the usual hit-and-run tactics or are these rebels numerous enough to challenge Assad's forces? I suspect the former, although it seems to be a part of a refined strategy.

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RE: Civil war in Syria
Well, with the country being majority Sunni and the sectarian side of the conflict it may be easy for Sunni tribes to gain large numbers of support. There has been footage of the FSA using a tank now, and some well planned ambushes on Syrian Army armour movements moving into rebel held urban areas. So their capabilities are growing.

Damascus is right on the edge of the large majority Sunni area of the country in a majority Shia area.

The Guardian is reporting that the Syrian State TV is claiming FSA are dressing as Republican Guard in Damascus.

Quote:"Armed men in Tadamon, Midan, Qaa and Nahr Aisha (neighbourhoods) are wearing military uniforms with the insignia of the Republican Guard. This confirms they are planning to commit crimes and attack people, exploiting the trust of citizens in our courageous armed forces,"

Also, if the claims of the fake Libya sets are true.... this from SANA might be interesting.

Quote: A security company in Qatar specialised in manufacturing models has started executive preparations in a move that is aimed at misleading the public opinion about what is going on in Syria.

According to special sources, the company has manufactured models analogous to official buildings and squares in Damascus, Aleppo and Lattakia in al-Zoubareh region near Doha.

The sources quoted eye witnesses as saying that the company started gathering people to make them wear special customs [sic] to represent military personnel and photographers as if from the Syrian TV channels and prepared public, private and military cars with fake Syrian registration plates to film fake videos and fabricated photos about the situation in Syria.

EDIT: LOL... the Green Square Libya fake footage... there really is a painting in the arch.
2012 Jul 19 13:37
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RE: Civil war in Syria
Could it be... A Western Journalist doing his job, unhindered?! A very interesting article from The Guardian, revealing some of the networks behind the Syrian debacle. CFR, Bilderberg, Goldman-Sachs, you name it, they're all there...

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The Syrian opposition: who's doing the talking?


The media have been too passive when it comes to Syrian opposition sources, without scrutinising their backgrounds and their political connections. Time for a closer look …

A nightmare is unfolding across Syria, in the homes of al-Heffa and the streets of Houla. And we all know how the story ends: with thousands of soldiers and civilians killed, towns and families destroyed, and President Assad beaten to death in a ditch.

This is the story of the Syrian war, but there is another story to be told. A tale less bloody, but nevertheless important. This is a story about the storytellers: the spokespeople, the "experts on Syria", the "democracy activists". The statement makers. The people who "urge" and "warn" and "call for action".

It's a tale about some of the most quoted members of the Syrian opposition and their connection to the Anglo-American opposition creation business. The mainstream news media have, in the main, been remarkably passive when it comes to Syrian sources: billing them simply as "official spokesmen" or "pro-democracy campaigners" without, for the most part, scrutinising their statements, their backgrounds or their political connections.

It's important to stress: to investigate the background of a Syrian spokesperson is not to doubt the sincerity of his or her opposition to Assad. But a passionate hatred of the Assad regime is no guarantee of independence. Indeed, a number of key figures in the Syrian opposition movement are long-term exiles who were receiving US government funding to undermine the Assad government long before the Arab spring broke out.

Though it is not yet stated US government policy to oust Assad by force, these spokespeople are vocal advocates of foreign military intervention in Syria and thus natural allies of well-known US neoconservatives who supported Bush's invasion of Iraq and are now pressuring the Obama administration to intervene. As we will see, several of these spokespeople have found support, and in some cases developed long and lucrative relationships with advocates of military intervention on both sides of the Atlantic.

"The sand is running out of the hour glass," said Hillary Clinton on Sunday. So, as the fighting in Syria intensifies, and Russian warships set sail for Tartus, it's high time to take a closer look at those who are speaking out on behalf of the Syrian people.

Read the rest here.

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2012 Jul 19 19:57
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RE: Civil war in Syria
Two interesting blog posts, a lot of video links are broken due to copyright claims though:

http://syria-tribune.com/e/index.php/by-...der-bonnet
http://syria-tribune.com/e/index.php/gue...en-reasons

And this made me laugh... 'the vast majority of the revolution’s women demonstrating only at home'



2012 Jul 23 15:42
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(2012 Jul 23 15:42)Peasant Wrote:  


You tell em, Mary! ;)

(The ones without gloves made the evil djinns stir in the depths of my depraved soul and loins, though. May Allah the most merciful grant that they be appropriately chastised by a holy gangbang of mullahs for their licentious dress, inshallah.)
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the Telegraph posted some 'Assad Family Album' pics yesterday.

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I also thought this tidbit from the BBC's update today was funny/interesting:
Quote:In other developments...
A commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guards, Brig Gen Masoud Jazayeri, said "decisive blows" would be struck against Syria's enemies, "particularly the hated Arabs" Big Grin, if they intervened in the conflict, Iran's semi-official Fars news agency reported.
2012 Jul 24 16:35
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Reminds me of the Vogue article that got took down due to whiners.
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Quote:Media lies about Syria

Independent journalist Anhar Kochneva has been living and working in Syria for more than ten years. She says that the situation in Syria is not at all similar to how it has been presented in the mass media.

She is Russian, speaks fluent Arabic and her friends and neighbors are ordinary Syrians. She walks along the same streets of Damascus and goes shopping in the same stores as any other resident of the Syrian capital. We recently spoke with her to ask about some of the causes for the long-term disorder in Syria.

Were there any prerequisites for the Syrian crisis?

First of all, there were no signs of any crisis a year ago. Nothing extraordinary happened in March 2011. The whole thing started out as a case of criminal activity. I always got furious when journalists wrote that ‘mass riots and demonstrations had been taking place in Syria during recent months’. It is not true.

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I came to Syria in the late-90s. To tell the truth, I didn’t like the country. Now I've been living in this country for quite a while, the country has changed. Life has changed; people have changed. People have started their own businesses; they have their own property.

Therefore, people would maybe have supported a protest movement 10 years ago, but now they wouldn't. Now people want stability. There is unnecessary chaos, some disorders. They used to live in a peaceful country. Syria was one of the safest countries in the region. Here you could leave a bag with money in the street, return two days later and find it in the same place. Now, unfortunately, it’s not like that anymore. People are afraid. Something they were proud of was stolen from them.

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Most of the last months' casualties were soldiers of the Syrian Army. The so-called rebels fight in the streets, shoot videos and burn tires. If you see black smoke on a video “made by mobile phone”, it’s not the result of artillery fire by the army, it is smoke from burning tires.

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There are a lot of soldiers of fortune among the bandits. They are Chechens, Romanians, French, Libyans, and Afghans. Moreover, there was a very funny accident with Afghan soldiers. A few Afghans were caught and asked, ‘What are you doing here?’ They replied, ‘We were told that we came to Israel, and at night we are shooting at Israeli buses. We are fighting with the enemy to liberate Palestine.’ It might be funny, but it is true. The guys were really surprised, ‘Are we in Syria? We thought we were in Israel!’

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Full article

It's hard to tell if what she says is true, though the article smacks of propaganda to me.

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