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(2015 Dec 18 18:11)Mustapaita Wrote:  I just don't think Trump is the messiah of wpww.

He's never presented himself in such a way- Trump appeals to more than just disgruntled whites, not that you'll see this in the media.

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Trump is the messiah of wppl.
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'GOP candidates slam Trump over Putin praise'

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/12/...raise.html

What started as a seemingly mild admiration between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin took an uncomfortable turn Friday when the GOP White House hopeful seemed to defend the Russian president’s strong-arm tactics – and dismiss his alleged killing of journalists and others who cross him.

One day after Putin praised Trump, the outspoken Republican candidate told MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that he was happy with the compliments, even after the show anchors pointed out that Putin has been accused of killing political opponents and reporters as well as his aggressive history of invading countries.

“Our country does plenty of killing also,” Trump responded.

Almost immediately, Republican rival and former Florida governor Jeb Bush blasted Trump on Twitter, writing, “A true freedom-loving conservative wouldn’t be flattered by praise from a despot like Putin.”

He added, “Does Donald even know Putin backs Iran/Assad? Does he care? We must stand up to Putin not coddle him.”

Trump fired back, saying Bush has "embarrassed himself & his family with his incompetent campaign for president."

He added, "The last thing our country needs is another BUSH! Dumb as a rock!"

Former Virginia Gov. Jim Gilmore, also a GOP 2016 contender, told FoxNews.com that Trump's latest comments show his "inexperience and naiveté" when it comes to being a statesman.

“He is terrible at explaining his foreign policy and shows it every day he campaigns,” Gilmore said. “Today’s blunder about Putin is just another example.”

During Putin’s annual news conference, the Russian leader mentioned the 2016 U.S. presidential election and noted that if Trump were in charge, the frosty relationship between the two countries would start to thaw.

“He (Trump) says he wants to move to another level of relations, to closer and deeper relations with Russia, how can we not welcome that? Of course we welcome it.”

Putin also called Trump “a very colorful character and talented” and said “he’s the absolute leader in the presidential race.”

Trump, during his phone-in interview on MSNBC, returned the compliment, saying, “He’s running his country. At least he’s a leader, you know, unlike what we have in this country.”

Host Joe Scarborough responded, “Again, he kills journalists that don’t agree with him.”

Trump refused to back down, telling FoxNews.com in a statement on Friday, "It is always a great honor to be so nicely complimented by a man so highly respected within his own country and beyond."

He added, "I have always felt that Russia and the United States should be able to work well with each other towards defeating terrorism and restoring world peace, not to mention trade and all of the other benefits derived from mutual respect."

Republican analyst and Fox News contributor Mary Katharine Ham says Trump’s comments illustrate his lack of depth.

“This guy’s just not well versed in what Putin is all about and so there’s this sort of reflexive admiration for a leader but he hasn’t really thought about the implications of that and I think you see a lot of that in Donald Trump interviews,” she said.

On Thursday, South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, also in the running for a White House bid, took to Twitter to vent about Trump.

“Just when you think it can’t get worse: A leading American candidate for President praising Putin.”

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2015 Dec 20 01:20
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(2015 Dec 20 01:20)Blackthorne Wrote:  “Just when you think it can’t get worse: A leading American candidate for President praising Putin.”
This MAY end up another of those things that backfire on the usual suits. A leader of a major foreign power gives (only faint, really, but never mind) praise to Trump, and Trump's enemies can only really condemn this from the moral/political point of view of the do-gooding "liberal" human-rights agenda. IS that even a condemnation for many Americans who are sick and tired of precisely this same PC agenda? Might it not rather help add to Trump's no-nonsense anti-PC appeal?

"And now if a whole nation fell into that? In such a case, I answer, infallibly they will return out of it. For life is no cunningly-devised deception or self deception, it is a great truth that thou art alive, that thou hast desires, necessities: neither can these subsist and satisfy themselves on delusions, but on fact. To fact, depend on it, we shall come back: to such fact, blessed or cursed, as we have wisdom for."
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(2015 Dec 20 01:20)Blackthorne Wrote:  'GOP candidates slam Trump over Putin praise'
One of the other candidates trolled Trump over this





Anyway, it's no surprise Trump and Putin like eachother. Both authoritarian strongmen.
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Trump praises Putin again and completely destroys ABC cuck interviewer.



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sound starts at about 31:24



"The secret to happiness is freedom... And the secret to freedom is courage."
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"Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must." Thucydides
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'Trump’s strongest Republican supporters: Registered Democrats?'

That’s odd. What could Democrats possibly see in a lifelong true conservative like Donald Trump?

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There’s something for everyone in Nate Cohn’s new post. If you’re a Trump fan, here’s the smoking gun that he really is a new Reagan, the guy who’s going to broaden the tent and sweep to victory in November by bringing centrist Democrats into the GOP. If you’re a Trump critic, here’s further proof that he’s the RINO of RINOs, a man who’s blended nationalism, center-left economics, and Jacksonian foreign policy into something that tastes better to members of the other party than it does to conservatives. That sounds a lot like Perotism, frankly — except, according to the (Democratic) pollster who provided Cohn with data, Trump’s geographic support is the opposite of Perot’s. Perot did best in the west and in New England. Trump cleans up in the south, up through Appalachia, and into the industrial northeastern states like New York. How do you explain that?

Cohn’s theory, comparing Trump’s map of support to a map of “racially charged Internet searches,” is that prejudice is driving some of his votes. There was nothing comparable in Perot’s campaign to Trump inveighing against rapists from Mexico and calling for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States. (There’s no disputing that Trump is the favored candidate of the white nationalists of the “alt-right.”) On the other hand, how many Trump voters in economically distressed industrial areas in the eastern U.S. like Trump’s immigration rhetoric because they “hate” Mexicans and how many simply want less competition from foreign labor in the name of bringing back jobs to America? According to Cohn, Trump’s best state is West Virginia; West Virginia also happens to be the only state in the U.S. where (as of March of this year) less than half of the adult civilian population is employed. Being a protectionist doesn’t make you a racist. Either way, though, this part is certainly true — and important to the future of the GOP:

'In many of these areas, a large number of traditionally Democratic voters have long supported Republicans in presidential elections. Even now, Democrats have more registered voters than Republicans do in states like West Virginia and Kentucky, which have been easily carried by Republicans in every presidential contest of this century. As recently as a few years ago, Democrats still had a big advantage in partisan self-identification in the same states.

But during the Obama era, many of these voters have abandoned the Democrats. Many Democrats may now even identify as Republicans, or as independents who lean Republican, when asked by pollsters — a choice that means they’re included in a national Republican primary survey, whether they remain registered as Democrats or not.'

Conn Carroll put it this way:

'I think a big part of what explains Trump is the natural growing pains of the GOP assimilating big govt whites leaving the Dem Party.'

Right. The GOP is gradually becoming older and whiter due to white Democrats crossing the aisle for various reasons — contempt for some Democratic welfare programs, disagreement with progressives on cultural flashpoints like gay marriage, righteous disgust for the left’s insistence on open borders, racial anxiety, and so forth. On “values” issues, that influx of culturally conservative Dems will help entrench the GOP (for a while, at least) as a socially right-wing party despite more centrist tendencies among younger Republicans. Economically, though, it seems likely to do the opposite: Trump’s gone a long, long way this year preaching protectionism and zealous defense of entitlements, and as the Democratic constituency within the GOP grows, other Republican pols will feel pressure to follow suit. The Reagan revolution was about convincing centrist Dems to try smaller government and deregulation; the Trump revolution is about convincing them that big government will work for them with Donald Trump in charge. A populist would say that that’s really no different than what we have now, with GOP candidates preaching Reaganism to get elected and then practicing Trumpism once in office — except it’s Trumpism for the donor class, not for blue-collar voters. Reaganism remains the party’s ideological guiding star, though, at least for the moment. If Trump has a long run this year thanks to centrist Democrats coming out to vote for him in Republican primaries, does that change? How do you build a conservative party if a significant chunk of it is Democratic? Or do we no longer care about conservatism so long as we’ve got nationalism?

That’s the long-term problem. The short-term problem is one for Trump: How do you get these Democratic voters re-registered as Republicans and out to the polls in February? And if you’re Ted Cruz, how do you maintain your position as their second choice when you’re running as the staunchest conservative in the field? Maybe continuing to attack the “Washington cartel” without emphasizing too heavily how right-wing you are is enough. I’d be curious to see how Trump fans shake out, though, in a hypothetical match-up between Cruz and, say, Chris Christie after a month or two of Christie selling his own brand of alpha-male centrism on the trail beyond New Hampshire. If you want a guy who knows how to pander to Democratic voters and ostentatiously doesn’t care how boorish people find him, there’s an obvious choice. And it ain’t Ted Cruz.

Exit question: Is Trump’s Democratic support being oversold by Cohn? Look back at the numbers at the top. Even among registered Republicans, he’s just a hair shy of 30 percent support, enough to lead the field. Is that because a bunch of former Democrats have already re-registered as Republicans over the last 10 years and are responding to Trump? Or is Trump appealing in some ways even to longtime righties?

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/12/31/tr...democrats/

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