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Does this place have a proper website, and not just a facebook account?

They sure have managed to garner a lot of attention at least, not sure if that translate to actually meeting many of their objectives.

I ask not the least because I'm at the moment willing to pay good monie$ for one of those "mantenerse en pie en un mundo en ruinas" camisetas. Smile

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2015 Sep 22 21:57
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Do we really have to imagine standing in a world in shambles? I do it everyday - and did not get the t-shirt.


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2015 Sep 22 23:24
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I like to look at the human self-model as a neurocomputational weapon, a certain data structure that the brain can activate from time to time.

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2015 Sep 23 23:09
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(2015 Sep 22 21:57)Eldritch Wrote:  Does this place have a proper website, and not just a facebook account?

Not at the moment.

Quote:They sure have managed to garner a lot of attention at least, not sure if that translate to actually meeting many of their objectives.

Well, their declared objective is simply to "help Spaniards who need help" and, obviously, to try and raise awareness about this issue, exposing positive discrimination towards migrants, etc.

They are a nationalist NGO and not a political organization, so they really don't have goals other than the already mentioned ones. I do have the feeling, however, that this initiative has managed to gain more sympathy amongst normal ordinary people than other initiatives before it, the fact that they are not a political party aids this, as they can't be accused of being an organization that is helping people in order to try and fish votes or support from them.

Also, another thing must be said, usually political parties who have tried to use the "food for votes" tactic as a means of gaining votes (I am thinking of España 2000) have not gained much in the places where they employed this tactic, as the people being helped by them usually lead such dysfunctional lifes that they have much bigger problems and things to worry about that going out to vote for a political party at an election, even if that political party is helping them to survive, obviously, in Greece, where this occurs at a much larger scale, Golden Dawn has managed to raise support, as the mass of desperate people is so huge that it's not only limited to those circles made up of society's dysfunctional elements.

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2015 Oct 25 04:09
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Actually this strategy isn't too far away from what the short-lived social-revolutionary and syndicalist Falange Española de las JONS did before they sold out to the reactionaries in the Franco coalition. 80 years later others have replaced them and are doing their core business now.


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2015 Oct 25 12:31
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We need this in Finland too.




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2015 Oct 25 13:10
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(2015 Oct 25 12:31)Phlegethon Wrote:  Actually this strategy isn't too far away from what the short-lived social-revolutionary and syndicalist Falange Española de las JONS did before they sold out to the reactionaries in the Franco coalition. 80 years later others have replaced them and are doing their core business now.

Falange never attempted this before the war, they lacked the means to do so, as it was mostly an organization made up of students. They did go on to create the "Auxilio Social" during the war, but by then no one can claim that it was made with the intention of gaining the kind of support that would enable them to seize any quotas of power, as by the time the war had started, it was clear that power was going to be taken by force, and only by force.

Also, the "Auxilio Social" was created on October 1936, with the initial intention of taking care of widowed women and orphaned children, but by the time it managed to establish kitchen services capable of attending large amounts of needed people all over the nationalist zone, the Unification Decree (April 1937) giving Franco complete control and power of the nationalist zone had already been signed, so by then the "Auxilio Social" became a social organization pertaining to the newly formed francoist State, so Franco can't be blamed for the fact that they were actually allowed to carry on with their activities after the signing of the Decree.

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