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Quote:The upper chamber of the Russian parliament has unanimously given a formal consent to President Putin to use the nation’s military in Syria to fight terrorism at a request from the Syrian President Bashar Assad.
Consent was necessary for use of the country's military for foreign combat missions under the Russian constitution.

The request for use of force was sent by the president after considering the large number of citizens of Russia and neighboring countries, who went to join terrorist groups fighting in Syria, head of the presidential administration Sergey Ivanov told media. There are thousands of them, and Russia’s national security would be under threat, should they return home, he added.

“This is not about reaching for some foreign policy goals, satisfying ambitions, which our Western partners regularly accuse us of. It’s only about the national interest of the Russian Federation,” the official said.

Paris intends to sell the warships to Egypt for €950 million, which includes the costs of training 400 Egyptian sailors in France. The Mistrals are expected to be delivered in March 2016 after Egypt agreed to buy the carriers earlier this month.

The cost is the same amount of money Paris paid Moscow as compensation for cancelling the Mistral deal. However, there was also a penalty clause in the contract if France failed to deliver the ships on time. So France is expected to lose more than the official €250 million.

Ivanov stressed that no ground operations are planned in Syria. Russia would use its warplanes to hit terrorist targets when requested by the Syrian government. He stressed that unlike the US-led coalition of countries that bombs militant troops in Syria, Russia was invited to do so by the legal authorities of Syria and thus follows international law.

“The military goal of the operation is strictly to provide air support for the [Syrian] government forces in their fight against Islamic State,” he said.

The bombing campaign is time-limited, Ivanov said, not revealing a clear deadline for it. He said he was not authorized to disclose details of the operation such as the number of warplanes involved.

“All our partners and allies will be informed about our decision today through corresponding military channels. Specific military information will be provided as well, I believe,” he concluded.

Military engagement in Syria would not result in Russia being mired in conflict, Konstantin Kosachev, head of the parliamentary committee on foreign affairs, said commenting on the news.

“We would not risk getting stuck in a long conflict and threaten the lives of our troops. The operation is aerial only. Certainly, in coordination with the ground operation of the Syrian army,” he told the Rossiya 24 news channel.

Previously, Russia provided the Syrian government with advanced weapons and military instructors to teach the Syrians how to use them.

The developement comes after Moscow has intensified involvement in Syria, establishing an Iraqi-based military communications center with Damascus, Baghdad and Tehran.

It also happened just days after President Putin called for an international anti-terrorist effort in Syria that would include the government of President Assad at the UN General Assembly. Western nations have been seeking to oust Assad since 2011, but several key nations such as Germany, France, Britain and the US have confirmed they would not be opposed to Assad staying in power for a transitional period, which would include defeating the Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) terrorist group.

IS has taken over large portions of Syria and neighboring Iraq and is on its way to creating a caliphate. Islamic State has consolidated its position with a combination of successful raids, barbaric brutality and active campaigning on social media targeting potential recruits and supporters worldwide.

There are other significant militant groups active in Syria, including an Al Qaeda branch in the region, Al Nusra Front, which competes with IS for territory, resources and fighters. Another major player in the country is the Kurd militia, which has been defending the Kurd-populated north from IS with assistance from the US-led coalition.

Russia’s airstrike approach is similar to the US-led coalition, which involves bombing terrorist targets in Syria. But there is a clear distinction that may allow Moscow to succeed where Washington failed, says John Laughland from the Institute of Democracy and Cooperation in Paris.

“The difference with the Russian deployment – and this is the key point – is that it is being conducted in cooperation with the Syrian Army. The Russian approach is diametrically the opposite of the Western approach. The Syrian Army has boots on the ground,” he told RT.

If the Syrian Army with Russia’s help manages to score victories against Islamic State, this would expose the US as not really trying to defeat the terrorist group militarily, but actually trying to channel its aggression against Damascus, Syrian political analyst Annar Waqqaf told RT.

“The Americans are certainly using the Islamic State. They think they can contain them, because they know that their funding and support base lays [sic] with US allies in Saudi Arabia and that their logistic lies with the US allies in Turkey. They believe that whenever they want to close the tap they can close it. But in fact it’s not true,” he explained.

Russia’s alliance with Syria, Iran and Iraq would mean that Saudi Arabia and Turkey would have to stop ‘playing double games’ in Syria, says Srdja Trifkovic, international affairs analyst at the Chronicles magazine. The Saudis are financing IS and supporting the Al Nusra Front, in order to take power from the Assad government, and Turkey is more interested in fighting Kurds than Islamic State, he explained.

“It will no longer be possible in the new setup with the Iranians, the Iraqis, the Syrians and the Russians sharing intelligence for the Gulf monarchies and for [Turkish President] Erdogan to get away with this duplicity. For as long as they are able to do so, the Americans couldn’t really get very far with their anti-ISIS campaign,” he told RT.

Source: http://www.rt.com/news/317013-parliament...ps-abroad/





I have a bad gut feeling about messing around in the Middle East, but RUSSIA is going to REMOVE THE KEBAB. And the West still can't MOSSAD THE ASSAD! HA! LOL

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I don't necessarily agree with this move made by Putin but if it can bring the Syrian war to a quicker conclusion then I'm for it even though I'm doubtful it will.

Quote:I have a bad gut feeling about messing around in the Middle East, but RUSSIA is going to REMOVE THE KEBAB. And the West still can't MOSSAD THE ASSAD! HA! LOL

Well, the U.S. military usually fight with one hand tied behind back because of the inane rules of engagement. I don't believe the Russians are similarly constrained as they have shown in Chechnya...
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Quote:Long-range bombers to fly anti-ISIS missions from Russia, Putin orders Navy to work with France

Russia has deployed its fleet of strategic bombers to double the volume of airstrikes on Islamist targets in Syria, Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu has announced. Vladimir Putin has ordered a cruiser to coordinate operations with French naval forces in the Mediterranean.

“We are conducting a mass airstrike campaign against Islamic State targets in Syria. We have now doubled the number of sorties, which is allowing us to conduct operations throughout the length and breadth of the country,” Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said during a Security Council meeting in Moscow chaired by the Russian president.

Shoigu said that Russia’s Tu-95, Tu-22 and Tu-160 strategic bombers have been brought into the operation, while the Air Force command added that the strike group has been bolstered with 37 new planes, including Su-34 bombers and Su-27 fighter jets.

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Proof that Obummer was never serious about beating ISIS with airpower- the Russians are using their long-range bombers now but, not in a couple of years of the phony Obummer air campaign against ISIS, has the USAF ever rolled out the B-52s, B-2s, B-1s, etc. Obummer considers a USAF bomb blowing up an ISIS Toyota truck (brand new from its factory in, I think, Texas) to be a victory I reckon. Hmm...

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(2015 Nov 17 20:53)Blackthorne Wrote:  Proof that Obummer was never serious about beating ISIS with airpower- the Russians are using their long-range bombers now but, not in a couple of years of the phony Obummer air campaign against ISIS, has the USAF ever rolled out the B-52s, B-2s, B-1s, etc. Obummer considers a USAF bomb blowing up an ISIS Toyota truck (brand new from its factory in, I think, Texas) to be a victory I reckon. Hmm...

You guys should use A-10s over there, I love the A-10.

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Would look good together with our Su-25:

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EDIT: Oh, never mind, America actually does use them! thumbs up

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(2015 Nov 17 21:03)Temnozor Wrote:  You guys should use A-10s over there, I love the A-10.

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Would look good together with our Su-25:

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EDIT: Oh, never mind, America actually does use them! thumbs up

The Obummer regime initially wanted to retire the A-10 at the same time we began to go after ISIS- a totally mind-boggling thing to do given that the buggers have all kinds of armored vehicles and hardened installations. The A-10 is essentially a flying autocannon- I love it too and especially when it's strafing something love





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(2015 Nov 17 21:16)Blackthorne Wrote:  The Obummer regime wanted to retire the A-10 at the same time we began to go after ISIS- a totally mind-boggling thing to do given that the Islamic fighters have all kinds of armored vehicles and hardened installations.

Yeah, I'm puzzled by the retirement plans for the A-10. Like, the U.S. military is wasting billions of dollars for that pile of junk, the F-35, that can't even fly properly, but at the same time they want to retire this awesome working horse of the USAF? This is mind-boggling.

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(2015 Nov 17 21:20)Temnozor Wrote:  Yeah, I'm puzzled by the retirement plans for the A-10. Like, the U.S. military is wasting billions of dollars for that pile of junk, the F-35, that can't even fly properly, but at the same time they want to retire this awesome working horse of the USAF? This is mind-boggling.

The price tag for the F-35 program is at least 1 trillion USD so far- and the thing can't do anything that it's intended to do. It'd only take a portion of that 1 trillion USD to upgrade the existing arsenal of aircraft that the U.S. has so that they could fly for years to come. The U.S. already has effective planes: F-22 Raptor, F-18 Hornet, A-10, etc. I'm as puzzled as you are about this piece of crap F-35. 1 trillion- that's twice what the annual military budget of the U.S. is! Eek

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Too many of the trucks remain unhit. This place needs some carpet bombing.

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Quote:Ready for War: Russia's Stealthy Kh-101 Cruise Missile Debuts in Syria

The Russian strategic bomber raid on the Daesh targets in Syria yesterday marked not only the combat debut of the Tupolev Tu-160 Blackjack, but of a stealthy new Russian cruise missile. A video released by the Russian defense ministry clearly shows what appears to be the new Raduga Kh-101, which is slowly replacing the older Raduga Kh-55/Kh-555 cruise missile.

The new weapon—which is an extremely long-range stealth cruise missile—comes in two variants. The Kh-101 is the conventional variant, which was launched from Tu-160s against Syrian targets yesterday and the Kh-102, which is the nuclear-tipped variant. The missiles might have a range as great as 3,100 miles by some Western estimates.

However, Russian media indicates that the weapon has far greater capabilities. In 2012, the Russian newspaper Izvestia reported that the conventional variant of the missile would have a circular probability of error of less than 30 feet at ranges of up to 6,000 miles. The missile would use a combination of inertial guidance and satellite navigation using the Russian GLONASS system. Some reports indicate it might have a imaging infrared terminal guidance system.

The missile’s warhead would pack 880lbs of explosives. At the time, Izvestia had reported the weapon would enter service in 2013. Indeed, given that the Russians used the weapon during yesterday’s raid, that appears to have been the case.

There is not much data available about the Kh-102 nuclear version of the cruise missile. One can presume that the nuclear variant will be at least as long-ranged and just as stealthy as the conventional variant. It will also likely travel at tree top levels and it is thought to cruise at about Mach 0.77. The nuclear warhead is thought be a 250KT device.

The nearest U.S. equivalent of the Kh-101 or Kh-102 is the AGM-129 Advanced Cruise Missile, which has been retired from service. But the weapon incorporated a stealthy airframe and a 2000 nautical mile range when it was still in service.

The U.S. Air Force is currently developing the Long Range Stand Off missile which is likely be similar in concept to the two new Russian weapons.

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