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RE: British EU referendum
Here's the final draft of Cameron's reforms:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/...-en16.html

But we may not even get the current demands, watered down from what the PM set out some years ago:

Quote:A leaked copy of the final draft of the blueprint for Britain’s new terms of EU membership suggests that David Cameron heads to Brussels with no certainty over one of his key demands – and signs that differences are widening.

The series of documents, which were circulated in Brussels early on Thursday morning, confirm that the European council president, Donald Tusk, has failed to win agreement among EU leaders to cement some of the reforms in a change to the Lisbon treaty.

In the drafts, which were sent to EU capitals late on Wednesday and which have been seen by the Guardian, any mention of revising the treaty appears between square brackets – the device used in international negotiations to show there is no agreement on that issue.

The drafts also show that differences in some areas are widening rather than narrowing. The unease in France that Britain is seeking to secure special protections for the City of London, by giving non-eurozone members a greater ability to stall financial regulation, is highlighted by the appearance of square brackets in an early section in the first document on a proposed new rulebook for eurozone and non-eurozone countries.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/fe...t-brussels

EUphiles claim we have influence in the EU. But we can't even secure some modest reforms to our own country's welfare system.
2016 Feb 18 09:08
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RE: British EU referendum
Brexit vote could turn UK into a 'safe haven' triggering EU disintegration, say Barclays

Britain's exit from EU would open a 'Pandora's Box' in Europe, a threat which has been underestimated by financial markets, warn analysts

A British exit from the European Union could see the UK becoming a "safe haven" amid a disintegrating Europe, Barclays has said.
Analysis from the bank said a 'leave' vote would open a "Pandora's Box" in the crisis-hit continent, and could dissuade Scotland from breaking away from the relative safety of the UK.

Barclays said financial markets had failed to grasp the sheer "breadth" of the British vote, calling it one of "the most significant global risks of the year", and one which could lead to the collapse of the European project. (...)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/econo...clays.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsb...urope.html

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RE: British EU referendum
Are your neighbours IN or OUT? Interactive map reveals the most and least Eurosceptic areas of Britain ahead of referendum on June 23

Top ten eurosceptic areas are all in England - and top 3 are in the south
YouGov also finds link between low income and backing a Brexit in June
Europhile areas clustered in London, Scotland and university cities (...)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ne-23.html

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2016 Feb 29 16:43
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RE: British EU referendum
(2016 Feb 29 16:43)Aptrgangr Wrote:  [Image: wgwdeas5.png]

Partisan map. Exit is the colour of scabs, wounds and evil commies, and "slightly exit" is coloured in such a way to make it barely distinguishable from "meh". "Stay cucked" is the colour of lush rich nature and happy days spent lounging in the park or enjoying a spot of gardening. The scale gives undue prominence to vast wastes populated by otters and capercailie, making populous towns and cities of Brexiters seem insignificant. Fucking Daily Mail.

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2016 Feb 29 17:20
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It is clearly the gangrenous part on a festering wound preventing England from healing. Tongue

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2016 Feb 29 19:50
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Any coincidence that the biggest scab is formed by those who know the Scots best of anyone? Big Grin

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RE: British EU referendum
Iceland PM: Britain Has No Influence in EU, We’ll Negotiate UK Trade Deal If It Leaves

Britain has little say over decisions made in the European Union (EU), which is increasingly dominated by Germany, the Prime Minister of Iceland has said.

Sigmundur Gunnlaugsson claimed that the UK is wielding “diminishing power” within the bloc as many of its institutions are still under the sway of France and Germany.

In an interview with The Telegraph, Mr Gunnlaugsson said: “When it comes to the big stuff the decisions are made by two, and increasingly one country. (...)

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/03/...it-leaves/

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RE: British EU referendum
ECR chief backs Brexit

Britain’s most senior Conservative MEP has said he will vote for the UK to leave the European Union at the 23 June referendum.

Syed Kamall is the leader of the European Conservatives and Reformists group, the third largest in the European Parliament, and a MEP for London.

Sources said Kamall was on “risky territory” and that “murmurings about his position” from non-Tory parties in the group have already started.

As leader of the ECR, Kamall represents many parties and not just the British Conservatives. Those parties could be unhappy with being led by a Brexit-supporter because they back Britain’s continued membership.

Which way Kamall would eventually go was the subject of much discussion in the Parliament. An estimated five MEPs, including him, now back Brexit. (...)

http://www.euractiv.com/section/uk-europ...ks-brexit/


haha, wog is against EU, evil "right wingers" are for it...

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RE: British EU referendum
German Eurocrat opposes the Brexit deal:

Quote: The European Council agreed in February to a number of reforms proposed by Britain to try and counter the risk of the UK leaving the bloc in a June referendum. Alexander Graf Lambsdorff spoke to EurActiv Germany about the historic vote.

Alexander Graf Lambsdorff is Vice-President of the European Parliament and an MEP with the liberal ALDE group.

Lambsdorff spoke with EurActiv Germany’s Editor-in-Chief, Ama Lorenz.
http://www.euractiv.com/section/uk-europ...ncessions/

Just another reminder of the impossibility of EU "reform". Vote Leave to stop people like Lambsdorff determining British laws.
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RE: British EU referendum
Brexit: Hug a Brit campaign aims to convince Britons to remain in EU

‘Love bombs’ deployed in bid to encourage a ‘Remain’ vote in EU referendum

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016...ote-remain

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"Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must." Thucydides
2016 Apr 13 13:14
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