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RE: British EU referendum
(2016 Mar 11 17:00)Aptrgangr Wrote:  haha, wog is against EU, evil "right wingers" are for it...

Beatrix von Storch definitely isn´t for the European Union in its current form, she just wanted to point out the double standards in the ECR parliamentary faction as she and Pretzell actually got ousted from the ECR for far less seditious statements (i.e. protecting the national borders by the use of guns as a last resort; that is actually why borders patrols are armed with automatic firearms instead of Hawaiian lei garlands).


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2016 Apr 13 14:10
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(2016 Apr 13 13:14)Aptrgangr Wrote:  Brexit: Hug a Brit campaign aims to convince Britons to remain in EU

‘Love bombs’ deployed in bid to encourage a ‘Remain’ vote in EU referendum

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016...ote-remain
In the latest instalment of "stupid EU remain campaigns", BSE is telling young people to send postcards to their grannies saying why to stay in the EU:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/emilyashton/can...tcNZlR3aXo

Surely the young should be listening to the old, not the other way round.
2016 Apr 13 18:43
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Depends on the old. It is them who got us into this mess to start with.


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2016 Apr 13 19:09
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It's a rather interesting thought if Brexit does happen and the EU collapses. The big question is: what next? Will we see a revival of old rivalries and the formation of new power blocs/alliances? One that I can think of is the Visegrad Group. Its member states may strengthen it to protect themselves from the uncertainty in Europe.
2016 Apr 16 20:30
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(2016 Apr 16 20:30)Flavius Wrote:  Its member states may strengthen it to protect themselves from the uncertainty in Europe.

May be its time to give this another go.

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2016 Apr 18 18:15
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The polls are near 50/50 with remain taking a few more percent. Hoping some of these pro-Remain respondents are Labour supporters that don't actually bother to go vote.Big Grin

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2016 Apr 19 06:24
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How one man changed how British politicians felt about Europe – forever

In one year, Jacques Delors turned the traditional dividing lines of pro-Europeanism and Euroscepticism on its head. (...)

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/sta...pe-forever

Why are leftists pro EU after their pro-unionist dream as promised by Delors collapsed?

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2016 Apr 20 21:38
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Boris Johnson: UK and America can be better friends than ever Mr Obama... if we LEAVE the EU

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/new...hnson.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/pol...95826.html

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2016 Apr 22 16:46
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Barack Obama: Brexit would put UK 'back of the queue' for trade talks

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016...rade-talks

Ukip supporter backs Brexit by draping MASSIVE Nazi SWASTIKA on his house

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/663696/...n-leave-UK

"The secret to happiness is freedom... And the secret to freedom is courage."
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"Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms."
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2016 Apr 23 09:10
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”The US has always wanted Britain in the EU”

Barack Obama’s call for the UK to stay in the EU has predictably faced an angry response from British eurosceptics. But it’s wrong to get personal as some right-wingers have done and label Obama “anti-British” – he is simply articulating a long-held US policy.

The US wants Britain to vote “Remain” in the June 23 referendum, not because it would be good for Britain, but because a “Yes” vote would be good for America and, in particular, for Wall Street, the State Department and the US military-industrial complex. The US desperately needs the UK to remain in the EU to help it achieve its global economic and military aims. A British withdrawal would make it more likely that a less Atlanticist and less neoliberal EU would emerge, and that Washington’s influence over Europe would be reduced. The only surprising thing about Obama’s pro-EU intervention is that anyone should be surprised by it. Pushing for “Britain in Europe” is what American presidents do.

That shrewd old bird Charles de Gaulle understood what it was all about when he twice said ‘Non!’ to British membership of the then-EEC in the 1960s. The French president may have been distrustful of “la perfide Albion” since childhood; his biographer Jonathan Fenby notes how the French retreat from Fashoda in 1898 had “marked him as a boy,” but de Gaulle’s main reason for keeping Britain out was because he didn’t want to let Uncle Sam in through the back door.

In 1961, de Gaulle warned that if Britain was accepted, “a colossal Atlantic community would emerge under American dependence and control which would soon swallow up the European community.” The French leader’s vision was for a Europe of sovereign states built “beyond the United States.” Atlanticists in West Germany and elsewhere opposed the Gaullist line, but the passage of time has proved the General right.

More at link
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/340716-obama-...it-remain/
2016 Apr 23 20:03
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