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The resurrection of / De wederopstanding van het Vlaams Belang
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Quote:The resurrection of Vlaams Belang (Flemish Interest)

Vlaams Belang is in the running again. And that is a boost to the new generation, which doesn't have an easy time. "This is a pat on the back," says Barbara Pass.
 
Former party chairman Gerolf Anne Mansfield seems to be proven right. His only hope in the 2014 elections was not to lose it all. "So that they won't dance on our graves," as he put it. The stakes were, no more and no less, to maintain sufficient critical mass and ensure political survival, so that the party could still hope for a comeback with the 2019 elections. It could be expected that the hype around Bart De Wever and the N-VA
[a populist competitor, consider less extreme by the establishment press, -Q] would be over the top by then, creating space on the political right again, said Annemans.

[unfortunately Google Translate does not parse the URL. So those interested should learn Dutch to read the rest of the article. or run it through Google, paragraph by paragraph. -Q]


Quote:De wederopstanding van het Vlaams Belang

Het Vlaams Belang doet weer mee. En dat is een opsteker voor de nieuwe generatie, die het niet onder de markt heeft. 'Dit is een schouderklopje', zegt Barbara Pas.

Gewezen partijvoorzitter Gerolf Annemans lijkt gelijk te krijgen. Zijn enige hoop bij de verkiezingen van 2014 was om niet helemaal door het ijs te zakken. ‘Dat ze niet dansen op ons graf’, zo verwoordde hij het. De inzet was niet meer of niet minder voldoende kritische massa over te houden en politiek te overleven, zodat de partij nog kon hopen op een comeback tegen de verkiezingen van 2019. Want de hype rond Bart De Wever en de N-VA zou dan wel over zijn hoogtepunt zijn, waardoor er weer ruimte ter rechterzijde zou komen, aldus Annemans.

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2016 May 20 17:22
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Don't want to register there just to read the article. VB will always be around because they have a strong nationalist milieu especially in and around Antwerp, but I have a hard time imagining a return to their strength of the late 80s / early 90s.


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(2016 May 21 11:50)Phlegethon Wrote:  Don't want to register there just to read the article.
??? I'm not registered and I can read the article. I hate paywalls.

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What's behind the strong nationalist milieu in Flanders? I especially like that you have nationalist student organisations, something we've lacked since 1945.

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(2016 May 22 10:42)Mustapaita Wrote:  What's behind the strong nationalist milieu in Flanders? I especially like that you have nationalist student organisations, something we've lacked since 1945.
I'm 'Netherlandish', not Flemish, and I agree the nationalist infrastructure of Flanders is to be envied! It has most likely to do with Belgium being an artificial nation, and the Flemish (Dutch-speaking) part having been oppressed for quite a while by a French-speaking elite. Allegedly, a lot of Flemish soldiers died in WW1 because of the lack of proper communication between Flemmish foot soldiers and francophone officers. This laid the foundation for an ethnocultural self-consciousness before even the non-Europid mass immigration started.

However, politically the nationalists have always remained isolated, while in the Netherlands the populist right, largely free of associations with old-school nationalism (tainted by nazism), managed to break through, first with Pim Fortuyn (who had many flaws but for that particular time was perfect!) and now with Geert Wilders.

I am glad that those two different currents (traditional nationalists and the new populist right) seem to be warming up to each other thumbs up

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The Dutch populists (Fortuyn, Wilders et al.) unfortunately are even bigger Zionists than the Vlaams Blok/Vlaams Belang, Pro NRW, AfD and PI combined. While the nationalist right-wing (Mudde, Mordaunt, Freling, Custers, Homann, Rost van Tonningen-Heubel) could not be taken seriously and therefore never really got off the ground (except maybe Hans Janmaat and the Centrumdemocraten in the 80s) they at least were consistent,reliable and predictable.

I still remember the good old times drinking Duvel in Antwerp's (in-)famous Café Odal where German nutzis met members of the VMO, NSV, Viking Jeugd, Voorpost and also the old Vlaams Blok.


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(2016 May 22 22:24)Phlegethon Wrote:  even bigger Zionists
I really don't give a crap about pro- or anti-zionism; it is as relevant to me whether or not a politician is a vegetarian. In fact, I think that focusing on such trivialities, and sticking to old, out-dated and proven counter-effective movements in the post-war wake of national socialism, are precisely why nothing at all has been done against immigration. All they managed to do is scare average people away from an anti-immigration position!

In the case of the Netherlands, the breakthrough came with the homosexual (relevant, because this is likely the reason he managed to break open political correct orthodoxy, belonging to a protected minority himself) Fortuyn, and now with the PVV there is large current that has an influence over the other political parties, having forced them moving much more to the right concerning immigration — but apparently that's all bad because Wilders is a zionist?!

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Fortuyn was a fake and so is Wilders. I won't ever trust flamboyant faggots who are that touchy-feely with the Zionist bandit state and won't trust their voters either. I also don't quite grasp the concept of a party which only has only one member. Only in the Netherlands, I guess.


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I've never changed my view about Wilders being an ex-VVD-member who's become more extreme in matters of immigration of third worlders, especially muslim migrants. In my book he's never been a far right wing extremist, rather an exponent of the common man's opinion whose frustration and anger is no longer paid attention to. He's cleverly making use of that. The people who are in favour of Wilders, vote him or express their support for him in any way are generally sentimental citizens whose Western values are but a bunch of consumer dreams, tearful love of animals, and an unconditional acceptance of everything American (and Israeli for that matter). Dutch are would-be Americans anyway. Having said that, Wilders anti-muslim agitation isn't entirely useless as he has made the problem 'more or less' open to discussion. He isn't the real deal though, far from it.
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(2016 May 26 18:26)Sincfal Wrote:  He isn't the real deal though, far from it.
It is not hugely likely there will ever be a deal more real than this. All the extras that you like to see, will involve a process of many decades, and hard work. I don't even see a primary role for politicians here, other than facilitating it.

Repairing/improving the foundations of your house to ensure it will not collapse, is a much less urgent thing to do than extinguishing the fire that is threatening its existence in the here and now.

Having said that, I think that e.g. someone like Martin Bosma, the former chief of "the Netherlands' only really multicultural radio station", already has achieved more in making people even remind that we actually do live in a house with foundations, than any (and I do certainly not mean any disrespect) of the old CD/CP-crew that Phleggy mentioned earlier.

(2016 May 24 00:11)Phlegethon Wrote:  I also don't quite grasp the concept of a party which only has only one member. Only in the Netherlands, I guess.
It's actually very simple to grasp. Apparently Wilders seems to think this is a good idea to prevent anu hijacks of the party line. It is not something I favor, and I think he missed an opportunity here.

But hey, whatever works. And waving flags with Odal Runes and Celtic Crosses apparently doesn't.

Wilders could have built a Dutch equivalent of the Vlaams Belang or Front National though. It's a pity that he didn't.

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