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Lithuania fears Russian propaganda is prelude to eventual invasion
Quote:The Kremlin’s attempts to rewrite history are seen as threats by Baltic states similar to its justification for annexing Crimea

Emma Graham-Harrison in Vilnius and Daniel Boffey in Brussels

Monday 3 April 2017 07.00 BST

Russia is trying to create a false history that denies the Baltic states’ right to exist, with alarming parallels to its justifications for the annexation of Crimea in March 2014, top Lithuanian officials have said.

The country’s defence minister and officials from the army’s department of strategic communication have told the Guardian that they are taking very seriously the threat of disinformation campaigns orchestrated by Moscow that aim to destabilise the region.

“Russia is a threat,” the defence minister, Raimundas Karoblis, said. “They are saying our capital Vilnius should not belong to Lithuania because between the first and second world wars it was occupied by Poland. It’s history of course, but Russia is using this pretext.

“Sometimes [the disinformation] is through [the government-run news agency] Sputnik, sometimes through their TV, but usually from politicians in the Duma.

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Has nothing to do with "rewriting" history, Vilnius is indeed disputed between Lithuanians, Poles and even Belarusians. And it belonged to all of them at certain points. If we point out that Kaliningrad is historically a German city, does that automatically equal to a German claim on it?

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Well it seems far fetched but Lithuanians are understandably worried. And Russia is engaged in promoting its own historical narrative which is rather diametrically opposed to that of the Balts (who are painted as ungrateful fascist russophobes).

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2017 Apr 03 13:24
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(2017 Apr 03 13:24)Mustapaita Wrote:  Well it seems far fetched but Lithuanians are understandably worried. And Russia is engaged in promoting its own historical narrative which is rather diametrically opposed to that of the Balts (who are painted as ungrateful fascist russophobes).

Sure. Has nothing to do with territorial designs, though. The (Russian) state must keep up the "we wuz liberators" trope for internal reasons, mostly. World War II is our national myth* in a way and questioning Russia's noble role in it would have too many people pissed. Obviously, there will be friction with countries who have actively worked with the Germans and have a resistance myth* of their own. Again, this is mostly for internal consumption, though.

*myth in the sense of a narrative that is important for national identity and social cohesion.

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But surely you understand that these kinds of provocations that directly challenge their statehood give rise to worries.

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(2017 Apr 03 13:46)Mustapaita Wrote:  But surely you understand that these kinds of provocations that directly challenge their statehood give rise to worries.

Hmm, yeah, that sounds ridiculous. I won't even attempt to justify it.

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(2017 Apr 03 13:57)Temnozor Wrote:  I won't even attempt to justify it.
Absolutely. Putting it in perspective is enough... ;)
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