Trump recognizes Jerusalem as Israeli capital
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Trump recognizes Jerusalem as Israeli capital
Trump recognizes Jerusalem as Israeli capital

US President Donald Trump has said he has determined that it is time to officially recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

Trump made the announcement in a speech at the White House on Wednesday.

He also disclosed he had ordered the State Department to begin preparations for relocating the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

Israel has long claimed Jerusalem as its capital, but no country has recognized the claim.

Palestinians under Israeli rule also claim East Jerusalem as the capital of their future state.

Trump's decision is in line with his key campaign promise to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem.

But Trump in June signed a six-month waiver maintaining the embassy's current location, taking into consideration the impact the change in policy will have on the Middle East peace process. (...)

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20171207_09/

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/01/us/po...salem.html

http://www.mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news...id/2717182

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Turkey's leader: Jerusalem should be Palestinian capital
Quote:Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has urged leaders of Muslim nations to recognize Jerusalem as the "occupied capital of the Palestinian state."

Addressing a summit of the Organization for Islamic Cooperation, he said the U.S. decision to recognize the city as Israel's capital was "null and void."

Erdogan also again accused Israel of being a "state of terror."

Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas said the U.S. had "disqualified itself from playing a role in the peace process."

"We shall not accept any role for the United States in the peace process. They have proven their full bias in favour of Israel," he told the summit... More ... (BBC/MSN - 13 Dec 2017)

RELATED: Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas: No more role for U.S. in Mideast peace process ... (AP/CBS News - 13 Dec 2017)

2017 Dec 17 19:35
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Turkey switches to full defiance of US, continues Putin courtship
  • "Erdogan’s intent is to shake off US hegemony, which he can do better while inside the NATO tent. He is in turn taunting, provoking, snubbing, defying and – worse still –ridiculing US regional strategies"
Quote:On Monday, US National Security Advisor HR McMaster added to tensions in the Middle East when he condemned Turkey and Qatar as prime sponsors of extremist Islamist ideology.

He tore into the Turkish leadership, saying the country’s growing problems with the West are largely due to the rise of the Justice and Development Party in Ankara.

A few days ago, McMaster had described China and Russia as “revisionist powers” encroaching on US allies and undermining the international order, and castigated Iran and North Korea as outlaw regimes that “support terror and are seeking weapons of mass destruction.”

McMaster now rounds on Turkey and Qatar for mentoring a radical Islamist ideology that “is obviously a grave threat to all civilized people.” The stunning part is that Turkey is a NATO ally, while the US Central Command is headquartered in Qatar... More ... (Asia Times - 14 Dec 2017)
  • About the Author: Ambassador M K Bhadrakumar was a career diplomat in the Indian Foreign Service. His assignments included the Soviet Union, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Germany, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Kuwait and Turkey.

2017 Dec 17 19:47
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(2017 Dec 17 19:47)Heimdallr Wrote:  *
Lots of maps, Mate, but are you trying to say something other than merely inform us as to where on the planet Turkey is located? Big Grin

I'm a bit at a loss as to how to respond to the recognition. Perhaps it doesn't really need a response, given that it's a more or less token gesture about a fait accompli. I suppose there's wheeling and dealing to come now, if this is following Trump's usual business practice, so we just have to wait and see what comes of it.

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(2017 Dec 17 19:47)Heimdallr Wrote:  *
(2017 Dec 18 10:14)Osweo Wrote:  Lots of maps, Mate, but are you trying to say something other than merely inform us as to where on the planet Turkey is located?
Most, albeit not all, would see the maps as a reminder of the strategic significance of Turkey in its region. In that regard, it's irrelevant whether YOU already recognized that or not; the post was addressed to the forum, not to you specifically.
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Quote:Lots of maps, Mate, but are you trying to say something other than merely inform us as to where on the planet Turkey is located? Big Grin

Last one reminds me of cancerous Youtube clickbait thumbnails...

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RE: Trump recognizes Jerusalem as Israeli capital
UN votes resoundingly to reject Trump's recognition of Jerusalem as capital

The United Nations body’s debate and vote highlighted for a second time in a week the international isolation of the United States over the Jerusalem issue

The United Nations general assembly has delivered a stinging rebuke to Donald Trump, voting by a huge majority to reject his unilateral recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

The vote came after a redoubling of threats by Nikki Haley, the US ambassador to the UN, who said that Washington would remember which countries “disrespected” America by voting against it. (...)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/d...lem-israel

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This is what made me a non-Trump supporter.

You goddamn communist heathen, you had best sound off that you love the Virgin Mary... or I'm gonna stomp your guts out!
2017 Dec 24 09:55
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