Who or What is Russia's "Pussy Riot?"
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There was nothing anti-Putin in that Nikita song, of course. But action is worth a thousand words… Big Grin
2012 Aug 18 22:47
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RE: Who or What is Russia's "Pussy Riot?"
(2012 Aug 18 20:54)Metalhead33 Wrote:  What do I see?
The good Russian government doing what they must, and liberal bitches crying about it.

I say, people like the Pussy Riot should be not just locked away, but executed without a trial.
Anyone guilty of hooliganism, promoting feminism or desecrating religious objects should be executed.

Why without trial? Would you be convicted without any kind of trial? Especially to death?
2012 Aug 19 07:40
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In Russia the common sentence for doing retarded things in public is supposed to be 15 days of arrest, is it not?

There are too many cases when the law doesn't work in Russia, hopefully it is not another such case.

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2012 Aug 19 10:12
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RE: Who or What is Russia's "Pussy Riot?"
(2012 Aug 19 07:40)Cinnamon Wrote:  
(2012 Aug 18 20:54)Metalhead33 Wrote:  What do I see?
The good Russian government doing what they must, and liberal bitches crying about it.

I say, people like the Pussy Riot should be not just locked away, but executed without a trial.
Anyone guilty of hooliganism, promoting feminism or desecrating religious objects should be executed.

Why without trial? Would you be convicted without any kind of trial? Especially to death?

We must not give foreign spies an opportunity to try to save the enemy.
We must prove that the state has the power, and if the state wants to condemn someone to death or prison sentence, there's not one damn thing foreigners and other states can do about that.
I believe that a state has the right to do what it wants, without foreigners interfering.

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2012 Aug 19 11:41
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(2012 Aug 19 11:41)Metalhead33 Wrote:  I believe that a state has the right to do what it wants, without foreigners interfering.

The "state" doesn't have any rights at all. People do. One of which is forming a state or similar organ to advance whatever is perceived as the people's common interest.

I like to look at the human self-model as a neurocomputational weapon, a certain data structure that the brain can activate from time to time.

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RE: Who or What is Russia's "Pussy Riot?"
Which people exactly remains the question here. In Russia most of those pulling the strings seem to be unelected.


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(2012 Aug 19 14:29)Eldritch Wrote:  
(2012 Aug 19 11:41)Metalhead33 Wrote:  I believe that a state has the right to do what it wants, without foreigners interfering.

The "state" doesn't have any rights at all. People do. One of which is forming a state or similar organ to advance whatever is perceived as the people's common interest.

"The people"... are you a communist or something?
The people are not smart enough to fend for themselves, let alone run the state.

Thus, foreigners still have no rights to interfere in Russian business.

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(2012 Aug 19 15:46)Metalhead33 Wrote:  
(2012 Aug 19 14:29)Eldritch Wrote:  
(2012 Aug 19 11:41)Metalhead33 Wrote:  I believe that a state has the right to do what it wants, without foreigners interfering.

The "state" doesn't have any rights at all. People do. One of which is forming a state or similar organ to advance whatever is perceived as the people's common interest.

"The people"... are you a communist or something?
The people are not smart enough to fend for themselves, let alone run the state.

Thus, foreigners still have no rights to interfere in Russian business.

You should be drowned in a bog without trial. Sterilized at the very least and barred from access to young, impressionable minds. Perhaps a life-sentence of caring for the elderly would do you good.

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(2012 Aug 19 15:46)Metalhead33 Wrote:  "The people"... are you a communist or something?
The people are not smart enough to fend for themselves, let alone run the state.

If "the people" aren't smart enough to run the state, then who will run it?

We don't have sufficiently advanced AI's yet, and broadcasting invitations into space for alien civilizations to send emissaries to Earth who would run our states for us, might leave us waiting for decades, or centuries. cry

I like to look at the human self-model as a neurocomputational weapon, a certain data structure that the brain can activate from time to time.

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2012 Aug 19 15:52
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(2012 Aug 19 15:52)Eldritch Wrote:  
(2012 Aug 19 15:46)Metalhead33 Wrote:  "The people"... are you a communist or something?
The people are not smart enough to fend for themselves, let alone run the state.

If "the people" aren't smart enough to run the state, then who will run it?

We don't have sufficiently advanced AI's yet, and broadcasting invitations into space for alien civilizations to send emissaries to Earth who would run our states for us, might leave us waiting for decades, or centuries. cry

By "the people", I mean the average folk.
There are smart people in every country, who have the intelligence to run the country, but they are always a minority.

Thus, you are speaking to a person who doesn't believe in democracy or liberalism, but views authoritarian dictatorship and semi-constitutional (or absolute) monarchy as the ideal types of government. You're speaking to a person who believes in the divine right.

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